The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that South African singer and anti-apartheid activist Miriam Makeba(pictured) was followed by the CIA and the FBI after she married Black PantherStokely Carmichael?
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Thank you so much for seeing this through. I hope y'all see why it was essential for a South African to record the audio. I also don't know how to use the IPA(c), so I'll leave it to someone. Thank you again. dxneo (talk) 10:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is that the Xhosa pronunciation? Normally for the lead we give the English. I've always said m@-KAY-b@, but I don't know what's usual -- I've also heard MAK-i-b@ and m@-KEE-b@. — kwami (talk) 12:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I could do the Xhosa, based off the recording, but my knowledge of that language is minimal, and I don't know we need it. Better to have s.o. who knows what they're doing IMO. — kwami (talk) 14:41, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, although my impression was that her first language was Xhosa, i don't know it wasn't Swazi, or that she wasn't natively bilingual, so maybe Swazi should get equal attention? — kwami (talk) 14:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah I'm not sure what to do here. I've never heard of her speicifically using the Swazi language (even for recordings) but that doesn't mean that she didn't speak it. Graham87 (talk) 15:02, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But we do know of Xhosa, so we should probably just go with that. And i could do the IPA, but it would be better if a speaker did that. — kwami (talk) 15:10, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kwamikagami on average South Africans speak 4 languages fluently. Miriam Makeba could speak all the Nguni language fluently including Xhosa, Swati, Ndebele and IsiZulu. Having lived in Soweto means she could also speak and understand Sesotho, Pedi, and Setswana. In fact she has songs written in all these languages including my favorite "Hauteng" written in Setswana about the sad living conditions of the miners in Gauteng during the apartheid era. I know she could also speak French fluently being a citizen of 10 countries and carrying 9 passports. [1]. Being fluent in different languages myself including SiSwati (my mother tongue) and IsiXhosa, I'll do the IPA. Bobbyshabangutalk18:39, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of the reason we have her name in Xhosa, and that's that she's Xhosa. But she's also half Swazi, and that challenges our choice. — kwami (talk) 00:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]